Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 120

04/25/2007 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY


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HB 207 - STUDENT QUESTIONNAIRES AND SURVEYS                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:35:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL  NO. 207,  "An  Act  relating to  questionnaires  and                                                               
surveys  administered  in  the  public  schools."    [Before  the                                                               
committee was CSHB 207(HES).]                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:37:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REBECCA  ROONEY, Staff  to  Representative  Peggy Wilson,  Alaska                                                               
State    Legislature,   sponsor,    explained   on    behalf   of                                                               
Representative  Wilson  that  HB  207 will  change  the  parental                                                               
consent  requirements  in  schools  from active  to  passive  for                                                               
anonymous  surveys  only.     Active  parental  consent  requires                                                               
written  permission  to  participate   in  the  survey.    Active                                                               
parental consent overburdens the  school system and significantly                                                               
increases   costs  involved   in   conducting  student   surveys.                                                               
Research  and  experience  suggests  that the  vast  majority  of                                                               
parents  would consent  to their  children participating  in such                                                               
surveys.    Most  of  the research  indicates  that  failures  to                                                               
provide written  permission are driven  by apathy,  oversight, or                                                               
student error, not be parents'  refusal.  Many schools are unable                                                               
to  use  the data  they  collect  because  there are  not  enough                                                               
participants.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. ROONEY  explained that passive parental  consent notifies and                                                               
informs  the parents  about the  nature of  a survey,  and allows                                                               
parents  to refuse  to allow  their child  to participate  in the                                                               
survey.   School-based surveys continue  to be a  reliable method                                                               
for  gathering valuable  population-based  information on  youth;                                                               
this data  helps policymakers,  educators, program  planners, and                                                               
parents to  better understand important health  and social issues                                                               
that  affect   young  people's  chances  of   success.    Routine                                                               
standardized surveys  such as the  national and state  Youth Risk                                                               
Behavior Survey  (YRBS), which  is conducted  by the  Centers for                                                               
Disease Control and Prevention (CDC),  track trends over time and                                                               
help  guide   and  evaluate   important  health   and  prevention                                                               
programs.   State and federal  grant programs that rely  on these                                                               
surveys  include programs  pertaining to  tobacco prevention  and                                                               
control; obesity prevention; heart  disease and stroke; diabetes;                                                               
safe  and drug-free  schools; other  substance abuse  prevention;                                                               
injury prevention  - including  violence and  suicide prevention;                                                               
human  immunodeficiency  virus  (HIV)  and  sexually  transmitted                                                               
disease (STD) prevention; and more.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. ROONEY  offered that the  overall statewide response  rate to                                                               
YRBS in 2005  was 55 percent, thus falling short  of the required                                                               
response rate  of 60 percent.   The state  was unable to  use the                                                               
data  or  publish  a  report   because  the  data  would  not  be                                                               
representative of  the high  school population.   When  the state                                                               
doesn't get  such reports,  it loses the  ability to  have timely                                                               
data  and track  trends over  time, and  is not  able to  compare                                                               
Alaska  data with  national  data during  the  same time  period.                                                               
Under the  bill, notification of  surveys and their  content will                                                               
still be  sent to  every parent  of a child  that is  a candidate                                                               
participant just  as occurred under  active parental consent  - a                                                               
parent will  have the option of  reviewing the survey and  how it                                                               
will  be   administered  before  it  is   actually  administered.                                                               
Therefore,  any   parent  who  doesn't  want   his/her  child  to                                                               
participate  will be  able to  opt out.   This  type of  parental                                                               
consent provides both protection  and flexibility for parents and                                                               
schools.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:41:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
EMILY  NENON,  Director,  Alaska Government  Relations,  American                                                               
Cancer Society  (ACS), relayed  that she is  very happy  that the                                                               
committee is hearing  HB 207, adding that the  ACS supports using                                                               
the  best  means  possible to  gather  health-related  data  from                                                               
Alaska's youth.   That health-related data is of  interest to the                                                               
ACS; as a science-based organization,  the ACS uses youth data to                                                               
assess the  challenges to  children's life-long  health patterns,                                                               
to set  goals and action plans  to meet those challenges,  and to                                                               
monitor the  success of its efforts.   There really is  no debate                                                               
over  the  value of  the  data  collected  in such  surveys,  she                                                               
remarked;  instead,  the  debate  centers  on  how  the  data  is                                                               
collected.   House Bill 207 has  been drafted in such  a way that                                                               
it retains the  key parent and student  protections of [existing]                                                               
statute.    In   addition  to  retaining  all   of  the  parental                                                               
notification  requirements,  it  also   makes  it  practical  for                                                               
schools to obtain  survey data.  In conclusion,  she reminded the                                                               
committee that the surveys are anonymous and voluntary.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:43:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CARL  ROSE,  Executive  Director, Association  of  Alaska  School                                                               
Boards (AASB), relayed  that the AASB advocates  for children and                                                               
youth, and assists local school  districts in providing a quality                                                               
education  with  an  emphasis   on  student  achievement  through                                                               
effective local governance.  The  ability of the AASB to identify                                                               
the  issues,   look  for  solutions,   and  measure   results  is                                                               
contingent upon  being able to  acquire the  information garnered                                                               
by these surveys.  There are  three programs the AASB is involved                                                               
in, and all are contingent  upon being able to gather information                                                               
through various surveys regarding  the attitudes and behaviors of                                                               
children and youth.  He  offered, "If you're making an investment                                                               
in  trying  to  get  communities   engaged  in  helping  kids  be                                                               
successful,  you'd like  to know  that  your efforts  ... can  be                                                               
validated  and that  progress is  being made."   He  concluded by                                                               
saying that the AASB supports HB 207.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS  offered  his  understanding  that  under  HB  207,                                                               
parental consent is required for  surveys that are not anonymous,                                                               
and that  a child can simply  decline to participate in  a survey                                                               
or his/her  parents may,  in writing,  deny permission  for their                                                               
child to participate.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSE  added that  the parents'  written denial  of permission                                                               
must be submitted to the school principal.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  offered his understanding of  the difference                                                               
between  active and  passive permission,  and  surmised that  not                                                               
many  notices given  to children  to  take to  their parents  are                                                               
returned.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSE  said that  the AASB is  trying to  access confidential,                                                               
anonymous information, but seeking  active permission can inhibit                                                               
obtaining that information.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:49:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PEGGY  WILSON, Alaska State  Legislature, sponsor,                                                               
relayed  that the  College of  Nursing at  the University  of New                                                               
Mexico  Health Sciences  Center found  that when  active parental                                                               
consent is  required, parental  permission is  typically obtained                                                               
for  only 30-60  percent  of the  students;  in comparison,  when                                                               
passive  consent   is  used,  93-100  percent   of  the  students                                                               
participate.   Extensive follow-up  may result in  55-100 percent                                                               
of parents giving permission but  at a significant cost - $20-$25                                                               
per student.   She relayed  that according to  the superintendent                                                               
of schools  in Anchorage,  a lot  of money is  spent on  a yearly                                                               
basis   in   trying  to   obtain   permission,   but  even   then                                                               
participation is still too low.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS  observed that there  is no fiscal note  attached to                                                               
HB 207.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WILSON, in  response to  a question,  offered her                                                               
understanding  that  requiring  active  consent  results  in  the                                                               
exclusion of  minorities, of students having  problems in school,                                                               
and  of  students  already  engaged  in or  at  risk  of  problem                                                               
behavior.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:52:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAY BUTLER,  M.D., Director, Central  Office, Division  of Public                                                               
Health, Department of Health and  Social Services (DHSS), relayed                                                               
that the YRBS  is an epidemiologic surveillance  tool designed by                                                               
the CDC  and administered  in schools every  other year  by state                                                               
and  local  health  agencies  around the  country.    Alaska  has                                                               
participated  in the  YRBS since  1995.   Typically, the  YRBS in                                                               
Alaska  is  administered  to  students  in  42  high  schools  in                                                               
approximately  20  districts,  with   just  over  2,000  students                                                               
eligible to participate.   The YRBS asks students  about a number                                                               
of  health-related activities  that  those in  the public  health                                                               
field would like  to encourage such as seat-belt  and helmet use,                                                               
daily consumption  of fresh fruits and  vegetables, and exercise,                                                               
as  well as  a  number of  activities that  those  in the  public                                                               
health  field  would like  to  discourage  such as  tobacco  use,                                                               
alcohol use, drug use, and sexual activity.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DR. BUTLER said that in the  field of public health, this data is                                                               
used to develop  and evaluate public health  programs designed to                                                               
help  keep kids  healthy  and help  them  become healthy  adults.                                                               
Student responses are  anonymous, and it's not  possible to trace                                                               
an individual questionnaire  back to any given student.   For the                                                               
YRBS  in Alaska,  a predefined  response  rate of  60 percent  is                                                               
required  for  statistical  validity.     The  2003  YRBS  survey                                                               
provided  representative data  but only  after considerable  time                                                               
and investment  in incentives, and  the overall response  rate in                                                               
2005  was only  55 percent  despite incentives  provided to  help                                                               
schools  offset the  additional administrative  burden associated                                                               
with  active  consent; as  a  result,  the  2005 survey  did  not                                                               
provide useful data.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
DR. BUTLER said that an  evaluation of YRBS data illustrates that                                                               
participation  rates have  been  greater in  areas using  passive                                                               
consent.   Of  the  roughly  45 states  across  the country  that                                                               
participate,  only  2  or 3,  including  Alaska,  have  statewide                                                               
requirements for  active consent.   House  Bill 207  won't change                                                               
the  ability  of  local  school districts  to  create  their  own                                                               
policies regarding consent  for student surveys.   He pointed out                                                               
that there  are advantages and  disadvantages to both  active and                                                               
passive   consent.       Active   consent    increases   parental                                                               
participation in the survey process  and ensures that consent has                                                               
been  based on  a  conscious decision  by  the student's  parent.                                                               
Additionally,  involvement  of   parents  could  build  community                                                               
support for  participation in the  survey process which  those in                                                               
the field of public health view as a methodological advantage.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DR.  BUTLER  said  that  passive  consent,  on  the  other  hand,                                                               
improves participation rates and  can provide more representative                                                               
data; it  allows administration  of the survey  at less  cost and                                                               
with less  burden on  schools and  teachers.   Additionally, with                                                               
passive consent, it is [thought]  that nonparticipation is due to                                                               
parental objection to the survey,  not just that parents were not                                                               
made  aware  of the  survey  because  students didn't  bring  the                                                               
notice home.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  BUTLER,  in response  to  questions,  acknowledged that  the                                                               
subject matter  of some surveys  is considered sensitive  by some                                                               
parents,  and their  concern is  taken seriously.   The  proposed                                                               
switch to passive  consent is not meant to take  away the ability                                                               
of  parents  to  preclude  their  child  from  taking  a  survey.                                                               
Furthermore, there  is no attempt  to cover  up the content  of a                                                               
survey; in fact, the survey is  made available to parents if they                                                               
request it.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:58:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN  asked  whether the  surveys  ask  questions                                                               
about  sexual behavior,  sexual orientation,  and safe  sex.   He                                                               
noted that  some parents believe  that their children  should not                                                               
be exposed to such questions at school.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DR.  BUTLER  offered  that  with  the YRBS,  the  nature  of  the                                                               
questions  posed   to  high  school  students   regarding  sexual                                                               
activity  are [preset].    There  is a  question  of whether  the                                                               
student has been  sexually active, and, if so,  how many partners                                                               
the student  has had,  and how  many the student  has had  in the                                                               
past three months; all these  questions includes an answer option                                                               
of, "I  am not  sexually active."   There is  also a  question of                                                               
whether the student, within the past  30 days, has been under the                                                               
influence  of  alcohol while  sexually  active,  and there  is  a                                                               
question of  whether the student  used any type of  birth control                                                               
or prophylactic  during sexual activity.   He said that  in terms                                                               
of  the YRBS,  he is  very comfortable  with the  wording of  the                                                               
questions; the  questions are in no  way leading and are  mild in                                                               
comparison to  the lyrics of songs  played over the PA  system at                                                               
schools.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  surmised that the questions  are probably                                                               
fairly  well  crafted  to  address  today's  issues.    He  said,                                                               
however,  that because  of  the sensitive  nature  of the  issues                                                               
addressed  in such  surveys,  he would  rather  presume that  the                                                               
parent has the right to grant  permission and that the school has                                                               
to obtain  that permission.   He  acknowledged that  some parents                                                               
might be apathetic to the  surveys, and that some children simply                                                               
won't give  their parents the  notification and  parental consent                                                               
form, but there are other  parents who, if given the opportunity,                                                               
will say "no"  to allowing their children to  participate in such                                                               
surveys.   He indicated that he  doesn't want to assume  that the                                                               
non  return of  parental consent  forms  can be  attributed to  a                                                               
failure on  the part  of the  parents; instead  it may  simply be                                                               
that the parent is refusing to grant permission.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR. BUTLER said  that there have been studies  done regarding the                                                               
lack of response to parental consent forms.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:02:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TAMMY GREEN, Deputy Director, Central  Office, Division of Public                                                               
Health,  Department   of  Health  and  Social   Services  (DHSS),                                                               
concurred  that  there  have  been   follow-up  studies  done  to                                                               
determine why parental consent forms  aren't returned, and a fair                                                               
amount of  those questioned said  they simply forgot to  fill out                                                               
the form.   These studies also determined that  given the choice,                                                               
those  parents  who  will  object   to  granting  their  children                                                               
permission to participate in a  survey will respond regardless of                                                               
whether  consent is  active or  passive.   Notwithstanding  these                                                               
studies, she offered,  there is no way to know  for sure, in each                                                               
case, why the parental consent form  was not returned.  It is the                                                               
school district's  responsibility, she opined, to  make sure that                                                               
parents are  informed about surveys  and are given the  chance to                                                               
look at  them; parents should never  feel that there has  been an                                                               
attempt by the school to hide anything about the surveys.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL opined  that if active consent  is not the                                                               
method used, parents will be left behind on this issue.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:04:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN asked whether  the parental consent forms are                                                               
provided in languages other than English.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  GREEN said  she is  not sure  but thinks  that they  are not                                                               
provided in other  languages, adding that she  will research that                                                               
issue further.  In response  to another question, she offered her                                                               
belief that under  the bill, parents must  be notified regardless                                                               
of whether the survey is anonymous.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS  observed that  the bill  is not  specific regarding                                                               
whether the required notification  must detail the subject matter                                                               
of a survey.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG offered  his  understanding that  under                                                               
existing statute,  a questionnaire  that inquires into  family or                                                               
personal affairs  may not be administered,  regardless of whether                                                               
the  questionnaire is  anonymous,  unless  written permission  is                                                               
first obtained  from the parent  or guardian, and that  under the                                                               
bill,  an  anonymous  questionnaire, regardless  of  the  subject                                                               
matter, can  be administered unless the  parent specifically says                                                               
that his/her child cannot participate.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS said he is  comfortable with switching to a passive-                                                               
consent  approach,  but wants  to  ensure  that schools  actively                                                               
pursue  notifying  parents  about   the  subject  matter  of  any                                                               
upcoming surveys.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL indicated  that  his belief  is that  the                                                               
parent should  have to specifically grant  permission, each time,                                                               
before a  student is given a  survey regardless of whether  it is                                                               
anonymous.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG offered  his  understanding that  under                                                               
the bill, two weeks' notice  to the parent is required regardless                                                               
of whether the survey is anonymous.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS expressed  a desire  to  alter the  bill such  that                                                               
schools will  be required  to notify the  parents of  the subject                                                               
matter of  any upcoming  survey regardless  of whether  a passive                                                               
consent approach is used.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:12:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARIE DARLIN,  Coordinator, AARP  Capital City Task  Force, after                                                               
relaying  that the  AARP has  submitted a  letter of  support for                                                               
HB 207, offered that the  AARP's membership includes grandparents                                                               
who  are very  concerned about  the issues  raised in  surveys as                                                               
those issues  relate to their  grandchildren.  She said  that the                                                               
type of information  garnered by surveys is  important, and noted                                                               
that the  question of how  to conduct  such surveys was  an issue                                                               
for the  Juneau school board even  in the '60s and  '70s when she                                                               
served on it.  She posited that  any school board is going to pay                                                               
very careful attention to notifying  parents about what questions                                                               
a   survey  contains.     This   bill  will   result  in   better                                                               
participation rates,  she indicated, and noted  that parents will                                                               
have two weeks notice to consider whether to withhold consent.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. DARLIN expressed hope that  any school district that adopts a                                                               
passive consent  approach will send out  a copy of the  survey so                                                               
that parents will  be aware of the questions that  will be asked.                                                               
It should be  the school board's responsibility,  rather than the                                                               
student's,  to  ensure that  parents  are  properly notified  and                                                               
informed about the types of  questions a survey contains and what                                                               
the resulting information will be used  for.  The issue is one of                                                               
getting  useful  information in  the  easiest  way possible,  and                                                               
allowing parents  the ability  to deny  permission would  seem to                                                               
take care of  their concern because even  then the responsibility                                                               
is given back  to the parents.  In conclusion,  she said that the                                                               
AARP supports HB 207.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:15:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANDREE McLEOD said she opposes HB  207, and relayed that in 1999,                                                               
her son participated in a survey  without her being aware that he                                                               
was doing so; as a result  she went to the Anchorage school board                                                               
to try  to get  the policy  changed, but  because of  the funding                                                               
associated with such surveys, it  was really hard to get anything                                                               
accomplished at the  school-board level, and so she had  to go to                                                               
the state level to  get the law changed.  She  opined that HB 207                                                               
diminishes the  role of parents' interaction  in their children's                                                               
schools, adding, "We  need to maintain the  parents' authority in                                                               
their child's education, not less."  She  went on to say:  "I see                                                               
this as  a fundamental  issue of parents  versus schools  and who                                                               
has  the  right.    Parents  have  the  right  to  their  child's                                                               
experience in the  schools.  They own it.   And they give consent                                                               
to do certain things at the schools."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. McLEOD  pointed out that the  YRBS is not only  given to high                                                               
school students, but to students  even younger.  She relayed that                                                               
back in  1999, she was  about 43 or 44  years old, and  that when                                                               
she  read the  YRBS to  see what  kinds of  questions were  being                                                               
asked, she found  that the numerous questions  regarding sex left                                                               
her, even at  the age of 44,  with the thought that  she ought to                                                               
be  having sex.    Such  surveys ask  a  lot  of questions  about                                                               
private family affairs, and, prior  to 1999, these questions were                                                               
being asked  of children  without their parents  knowing it.   It                                                               
was  a very  hard-fought battle  to get  that situation  changed,                                                               
particularly given  that funding issues  played a big part.   She                                                               
opined that passage of HB 207  will again result in violating the                                                               
parents'  role in  their children's  school experience,  and that                                                               
the bill actually goes against what its stated intent is.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:20:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MATT  FELIX,  Executive   Director,  Juneau  Affiliate,  National                                                               
Council  on Alcoholism  and Drug  Dependence, Inc.  (NCADD), said                                                               
that the  Juneau Affiliate of NCADD  depends a lot on  grants and                                                               
contracts, and  so is concerned  about the  lack of data  and the                                                               
lack of  accuracy in  the data.   Currently  there are  two major                                                               
surveys that  the NCADD  depends upon  to obtain  federal grants,                                                               
but one of  those surveys is not conducted in  Alaska because the                                                               
state doesn't use  passive consent and so it is  too expensive to                                                               
conduct; the data  that that survey gathers pertains  to drug and                                                               
alcohol  use, and  it  would be  great,  from his  organization's                                                               
perspective, he  relayed, to have that  data so as to  be able to                                                               
compare Alaska  with other states and  so as to be  able to apply                                                               
for  certain federal  grants.   Currently the  YRBS "is  the only                                                               
thing that we have" and its  accuracy is inadequate at this point                                                               
for use in  obtaining federal monies.  He added,  "I think we all                                                               
realize that  we do have a  serious problem ... with  [drugs] and                                                               
alcohol."    In response  to  a  question,  he said  he  strongly                                                               
supports HB 207.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  FELIX, in  response to  questions, offered  that the  survey                                                               
questions are  worded and the  statistics are gathered in  such a                                                               
way so  as to minimize the  margin of error, and  that funding is                                                               
one of the main reasons for seeking accurate data.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  relayed that  some of  his constituents                                                               
might  be intimidated  by having  to submit  a written  denial of                                                               
permission to  the school principal  as is required by  the bill,                                                               
and  questioned whether  the committee  ought to  alter the  bill                                                               
such that  it would be possible  to submit the written  denial of                                                               
permission to either the principal or the teacher.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. ROSE relayed  that the 53 school districts  in Alaska address                                                               
this  issue in  different fashions;  for example,  in some  small                                                               
communities,  the  school   districts  send  out  self-addressed,                                                               
stamped return  envelopes along with  the notice.   He mentioned,                                                               
however,  that  in  larger  communities there  are  a  number  of                                                               
children who  don't have parental  oversight, and so  each school                                                               
district has to address the  issue as appropriate, though smaller                                                               
school districts  can be  far more  flexible in  obtaining active                                                               
consent.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  RAMRAS, after  ascertaining  that no  one  else wished  to                                                               
testify, closed  public testimony on HB  207.  He then  asked the                                                               
sponsor to comment on the concerns raised thus far.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:27:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WILSON  provided members  with a  copy of  a YRBS,                                                               
and noted that of the 99  questions asked, only 7 of them pertain                                                               
to sex.   She assured committee members that  the proposed change                                                               
in the law  is not about funding; instead it  is about prevention                                                               
and  about having  the  knowledge  that can  be  used to  protect                                                               
children.  Although there are  state programs that seek to combat                                                               
obesity and drug and alcohol  abuse, as examples, the state can't                                                               
do everything, and  the federal government is  willing to provide                                                               
funds if the data accurately reflects a need.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DAHLSTROM said  that speaking as a  parent of four                                                               
and  a  grandparent  of  [soon-to-be four],  she  intends  to  be                                                               
involved  in  her  grandchildren's  schools,  and  asked  whether                                                               
volunteers could simply be used  to phone parents and remind them                                                               
to fill out  the active consent form.   She said that  she is not                                                               
so much concerned about the  subject matter of the questionnaires                                                               
as she  is about  a parent's right  to know what  is going  on at                                                               
school.  She  surmised that HB 207 could deprive  parents of that                                                               
right if they  are not made aware of surveys  that there children                                                               
are  being  asked to  participate  in.   Regardless  that  people                                                               
complain that it  is not the schools  or teachers' responsibility                                                               
to raise kids or discipline  them, teachers are often stuck doing                                                               
such things  anyway because they  care, but  as a parent,  she is                                                               
not expecting the state to do those things for her.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR RAMRAS indicated that CSHB 207(HES) would be set aside.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                

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